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Long Quest Chain in Dragonblight [Spoilers]

Has anyone else done The Battle for The Undercity?

To make a long story short, I always seem to log on my holy priest whenever I a) only have an hour or so to test, or b) right before a server restart. So, my levelling has been somewhat slow, and I'm still stuck at 70. However, when I heard about this questline, the lore nerd in me had to run to make a premade 80 on Murmur to try it out. (Yes, I know that those premades are meant for PVP, but I've seen people use them to test level 80 raids, so I didn't feel so bad.) I rolled myself a human death knight and gritted my teeth, because I'm not a terribly huge fan of PVP servers, and headed out to Wintergarde Keep.

All I can say is...wow. Just wow. The quest chain took me around five hours to complete on a level 80 with PVP blues, so I imagine it would take a solo player of the correct level a bit longer, with the travel time between points and such. The questline is tagged as level 72-73 and takes you all over Dragonblight, to Ogrimmar and the Undercity (even if you're on an Alliance toon!), and to Stormwind. The quests don't just involve killing x amount of ghouls, either. During the Alliance version of the chain, you get a chance to interact with lore characters, pilot a steam tank with a gnome engineer that pops out to dismantle Scourge war machines (one of my favorite parts), fly around on the back of one of Alexstraza's lieutenants, and there's even a special achievement near the end of the chain for your preservence.

And it comes with a climactic ending - Hey, the King's a Jerk! Or, rather, his sense of vengeance is really misplaced. Never the less, after years of cold war, the Horde and the Alliance are now formally at war. I'm sure Arthas is thrilled. "Here. Kill each other next to me." /cast Army of the Dead(Rank 9001)

Anyway, this is by far the best quest chain I have ever done. It made the lore addict in me very, very happy, but perplexed. Where is Blizzard going with this? The longterm consequences in the plotline of the game are pretty large, especially with the characters that tend to bridge faction gaps (i.e., Jaina and Thrall.) With King Varian's current state of mind, I could see him trying to brand Jaina a traitor for some of the things that went on during the questline.

TL;DR: If you want to try this quest chain yourself, it starts here for Alliance. I tried to dig up the Horde version for you Horde ladies, but WOWWiki is acting up. This is somewhere near the center of the chain, but I couldn't back up the chain much further than that. Hope it helps though.


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Sep. 23rd, 2008 03:55 pm (UTC)
I read a summary of the quest that someone linked me from a forum, doesn't Jaina stop the conflict?
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:04 pm (UTC)
She freezes everyone and teleports them out, but I have a feeling, after some of the things Varian said, things are far from settled. He made some awfully racist and genocidal comments toward Thrall.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:08 pm (UTC)
RAWR. >o Like what? Sorry if I want to spoil myself, but my only highest is 70 and I'm not sure she's high enough for this quest at all.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:11 pm (UTC)
Copy-pastaed from WOWwiki:

King Varian Wrynn says: I was away for too long. My absence cost us the lives of some of our greatest heroes. Trash like you and this evil witch were allowed to roam free -- unchecked.
King Varian Wrynn says: The time has come to make things right. To disband your treacherous kingdom of murderers and thieves. Putress was the first strike. Many more will come.
King Varian Wrynn says: I've waited a long time for this, Thrall. For every time I was thrown into one of your damned arenas... for every time I killed a green-skinned abberation like you... I could only think of one thing.
King Varian Wrynn says: What our world could be without you and your twisted Horde... It ends now, Warchief.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:26 pm (UTC)
D8 WTF. Why is this guy King again?
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:30 pm (UTC)
Because his father was king? I dunno.

Varian's son made a better king in his absense. "Greetings, citizen. Any news of my father?"
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:09 pm (UTC)

I'd rather have Katrana Prestor and Bolvar Fordragon back.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:12 pm (UTC)
/tar Bolvar

So much for my shipping him with Jaina...
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:13 pm (UTC)
...I shipped him with Varian, but apparently Varian's a jerk.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:15 pm (UTC)
See, I shipped Varian and Arthas, since the two were apparently good buddies as kids, and Terenas apparently liked Varian a lot more than his own son. (Ohangst).
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:18 pm (UTC)
Arthas should have been a toddler for that book, he was a toddler in Day of the Dragon which happened *after* Beyond the Dark Portal. /fistshake at people ignoring the timeline.

I read the comment above about what Varian says, and eee.

"What the Horde would have become without Thrall."

1) Parts of it would be horribly depressed, and probably still in the camps.
2) Parts of it would be raiding human lands, because Grom still loves killing things.
3) Parts of it would still be in disguise. Doomhammer came out of hiding FOR Thrall.
4) There would still be a Shadow Council.
5) There would BE NO AZEROTH. Because, I don't know HE HELPED SAVE THE WORLD.

I'm curious to know which 'witch' he's talking about. Jaina, or Sylvanas. :3
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:22 pm (UTC)
Oh, he's definitely talking about Sylvanas. It's sort of her fault that all of this occurred, though, having not seen the Horde side of this quest, I don't know whether a) she knew what the New Plague was really meant for but turned a blind eye to it, or b) she was truly duped and thought its development was really meant to kill Arthas and his armies.

Hope that made sense, I'm low on coffee.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:24 pm (UTC)
Well, as far as I know, Sylvanas wants to murder everyone, living and dead. She did *start* the royal apothecary society, and TRUST me, when you get your first 'stick plague in a pumpkin and feed it to the undead' quest at level 6ish, and keep getting them until you hit Outland, Sylvanas HAS to know.

Though, going back to it, does he really think Thrall, of all people, wants people to fight as gladiators in arenas? He's really not the 'it happened to me, so it must happen to others'. I'm pretty sure what those people were doing was illegal, though I haven't read anything but the previews for the WoW comics. The bad storyline's a bit too pricey for me atm.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:38 pm (UTC)
According to all sources, slavery is indeed illegal in the Horde, so it definitely seems to be an underground sort of thing. Think Fight Club, but on a nice big scale. \:D/
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:38 pm (UTC)
I haven't read the comics either, so I had to do with some preview pages and some summaries. However, I agree: the arenas were likely illegal, and for all we know, Thrall is looking to apprehend the shaman that held Varian captive. Thrall is by nature Lawful Good, and though DnD rules don't apply to Warcraft, he's never shown himself to be anything but. I can't imagine that he allows slavery in his own Horde.

I'd like to think that if Thrall knew that Sylvanas knew about the New Plague, he'd ask her to quietly gather her people and withdraw from the Horde. But that would break game mechanics.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:40 pm (UTC)
I'm pretty sure Thrall was kept in the dark about the true nature of the plague, like he was kept in the dark about the Naaru in Silvermoon. Which saddens me, because they presented Thrall as being very intelligent and practical originally, but he's falling into being kind of dumb.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:45 pm (UTC)
I don't think a plague would surprise Thrall at all; he was the one who was very much against the Forsaken joining the Horde, but I think Magatha Grimtotem was the one who convinced him to let them. As for him not knowing stuff, well, if he did know about all this and is ignoring it, then that would make him A) an idiot for not doing anything about it and B) a wee bit overpowered. The guy's only hu-- er, you get my point.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:47 pm (UTC)
Well, he says he knows about the traitors within the Horde, but he'd rather know who they are, so he can feed them the information he *wants* them to know. He may have been playing that game a bit too well. I always thought Thrall let people like the Forsaken and the Blood Elves join the Horde because he thought he could control or reign in their 'evil', but things got out of hand at present.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 05:11 pm (UTC)
Perhaps a tactic of 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer' mixed with 'enemy of my enemy is my ally' that went a wee bit too far. >3>
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:22 pm (UTC)
I'm guessing Sylvanas, seeing as how didn't he and Jaina meet up in the comics and were quite friendly? I has no idea. D: But man, DO WANT PRESTOR BACK PLZ.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:29 pm (UTC)
Jaina and Thrall have a friendship that dates back to WCIII but expands in the books and comics. (They meet covertly on several occasions to get each other's input on politics and such.) They also have a standing treaty that I can't imagine Jaina breaking for Varian's benefit. Theramore would be in serious danger.

I've wondered if Syl might have known Jaina from their days at court. Quel'thalas seemed to have decent ties with Lordaeron, and Jaina hung out at the Lordaeron court a lot. Certainly Alleria and Veressa made appearances at court. It's not much of a stretch to think Syl might have been there, too.

At any rate, from the dialogue that Sylvanas had, it seems that she wasn't derisive toward Jaina, but rather polite and willing to help.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:35 pm (UTC)
No no, I meant, I remember seeing a tidbit in the comics or a comic cover with Varian meeting with Jaina again, and he was going to see Jaina when he was lost and got amnesia.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:23 pm (UTC)
Arthas should have been a toddler for that book, he was a toddler in Day of the Dragon which happened *after* Beyond the Dark Portal. /fistshake at people ignoring the timeline.

Blizz needs to seriously stop retconning things about the Menethil family. It's making my head hurt. I hope Christie Golden's Arthas book clears things up.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:25 pm (UTC)
I've still not forgiven her for aging Life Drain spells. Grr. ee;
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:33 pm (UTC)
Or the mentioning of game spellcasting mechanics in that same book. What the hell?

But Golden is better than Knaak and his parade of Mary Sues, so I'll tolerate it.
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:35 pm (UTC)
I have a soft spot for Jorad Mace. But yes, I agree entirely. I was disappointed that they made Turelyon young in the Tides of Darkness and Beyond the Dark Portal. He was, like, 45, in Warcraft II. Also, I hate that (and this has been since The Last Guardian), they made Khadgar *old*. He looked maybe in his 30s in Warcraft II. *grumble*
Sep. 23rd, 2008 04:56 pm (UTC)
Man, our king sucks. WTB Jaina for leading.
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